RFC 140

Agenda for the May NWG meeting

πŸ“… published May 1971, from ietf

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okay so bestie, this is RFC 140 (also filed as NIC 6725) from the NWG, the Network Working Group. It was written by Steve Crocker at UCLA and dated 4 May 71. The original doesn't list a category or status, and it doesn't say that this document obsoletes or updates anything. It's just the agenda for the May NWG meeting πŸ¦‹

AGENDA FOR THE MAY NWG MEETING πŸ’–

okay, the big picture: the NWG meeting runs from 8 p.m. on Sunday, May 16 through Wednesday evening, May 19. Everything except Sunday night happens in the Wicker Room of the Dennis Hotel. Sunday evening is in the Royal Box Room of the Dennis Hotel instead 🏨

Evening meetings start at 8 p.m., afternoon meetings at 1:30 p.m., and morning meetings at 9 a.m. The schedule goes like this: Sunday evening, all day Monday (three sessions), Tuesday morning and evening, and Wednesday evening. When nobody's meeting, you're welcome to use the Wicker Room for private meetings or whatever you need πŸ’… It's reserved through Thursday afternoon.

Below are the topics for each meeting, plus the RFC numbers you should read before you show up. Do your homework, bestie πŸ“š


Sunday Evening: Short Reports ✨

Topic: Short Reports (RFC's 113, 131, 134)

Each host gives a super quick report, five minutes or less, on how their work is going. That covers hardware, NCP and Telnet, and any applications they're building or planning. The committees summarize their progress too, and new sites introduce themselves 🫢 The longer committee reports and discussions happen later.

Monday Morning: NIC and Telnet 🧚

Topic: NIC and Telnet (RFC's 103, 106, 112, 109, 110, 115, 118, 137, 139)

At 9:00 a.m., Dick Watson talks about the status, plans and policies of the NIC.

At 10:00 a.m., Tom O'Sullivan presents the Telnet committee's proposed protocol and leads a discussion about it πŸ“

Monday Afternoon: File Transfer, TIP, Network Planning, and Other ARPA Projects 🌸

Topic: File Transfer, TIP, Network Planning (RFC's 114, 122, 133, 136) and other ARPA Projects

  1. Abhai Bhushan of MAC and Jim White of UCSB are talking about their file transfer protocols.
  2. BBN reps are going to talk about the TIP: specs, delivery schedules, prices and protocols.
  3. Bob Kahn and Larry Roberts cover a few parts of network management and long-range network planning. This one is basically your chance to ask questions about who manages the Network, how it's going to grow, and which sites are coming on. Those questions should go straight to Larry πŸ‘‘
  4. A few other projects are happening that touch lots of ARPA sites but aren't based at any one site. They include efforts to build a list-processing system and a speech understanding system πŸ”₯

Monday Evening: Operating Systems and Networks 🌈

Topic: Operating Systems and Networks

okay, so the protocols the Network Working Group is developing are kind of like interprocess communication facilities inside operating systems. Nobody fully understands yet how these protocols should be built, or what the tradeoffs are between the alternatives. The same goes for interprocess communication in operating systems. People keep saying it would be worth studying all this from an academic angle, away from the pressure of shipping one particular system πŸ€“

Professor Art J. Bernstein of SUNY Stonybrook wrote this:

"The problem of designing an operating system for a computer which is to be imbedded in a network has received little attention. In addition to providing those capabilities one normally expects from an advanced multi-programmed system such as file sharing, inter- process communication and a hierarchical process structure, such a system should be structured so that, as nearly as possible, a user process is ig- norant of the actual location in the network of the files and processes with which it is interacting."

He's building an operating system for a PDP-15 based on this philosophy. He's coming to give a short presentation on it, and then we'll talk about how to organize interaction among different academic efforts, including ones outside the ARPA community πŸ’œ

Tuesday Morning: Data Reconfiguration Service and Data Management Systems πŸ¦‹

Topic: Data of Reconfiguration Service and Data Management Systems (RFC's 138 and one yet to come by Shoshani)

At 9:00 a.m., John Heafner of RAND meets with his committee to talk through some of the open issues with the proposed data reconfiguration service. Other interested people are welcome to join πŸ™Œ

At 10:00 a.m., Arie Shoshani of SDC chairs a meeting on data sharing across computer networks. He wrote:

"The main purpose of the meeting is to discuss the subject of sharing data on Computer Networks. First, an intro- ductory paper will be presented which will attempt to classify the issues involved, discuss some approaches that one can take to achieve data sharing and to point out some ad- vantages and disadvantages of these approaches. Then, an open discussion will be conducted. As a result, recommenda- tions will be attempted as to what approach is best for the ARPA-Network, and possibly set up a commitee of interested people to further investigate the problems. It is expected that participants will be prepared to discuss briefly data management system they have or plan to have on the ARPA network."

Peggy Karp of MITRE is attending and will talk about the data management system she's building to use facilities at BBN and UCSB πŸ’…

Tuesday Evening: Remaining Technical Matters ⭐

Topic: Remaining Technical Matters (RFC's 107, 117, 123, 124, 127 128, 129 and 132)

This meeting covers socket numbers, procedures for testing NCPs and Telnets, ways to experiment with the protocol, the initial connection protocol, and the leftover glitches in the second level protocol πŸ› οΈ

Wednesday Evening: Non-Technical Matters 🌸

Topic: Non-Technical Matters (RFC 113)

The Network Working Group has grown and changed a lot over the last two years. It's now a strong voice in network planning, but it's maybe not the best organized for technical work. At this meeting, we'll look at what we expect to happen by the end of 1971, what steps should get us there, and, most importantly, how the Network Working Groups should be organized and managed 🧚


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